From chas2 at mediaone.net Sat Jan 1 09:05:33 2000 From: chas2 at mediaone.net (Charles Borner) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:55 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] US Mirror Message-ID: 07ef01bf547a$6a64d6c0$010010c0@ce.mediaone.net If you're looking for a mirror, I can provide. http://www.evilnet.net Our last downtime was for a couple hours to install a new HD and update to RH 6.1 on 12/24/1999 Our last downtime before that was 4 months ago when we had to bring the server offline while the generator that's part of our provider's UPS was being upgraded. Our box went up in August of 1999. Our previous Linux box at an older provider had no downtime related to server problems, it was our connectivity provider that was the problem. Currently we're the only box on a T1 line. Services active: Apache+Mod_Perl+PHP3 Wu-FTPD AnonFTP DalNET IRC (DreamForge+EsperNET services) (irc.evilnet.net) SSH We also have sendmail running, but in an SMTP-only configuration (keeps people from abusing the server). (An occasional Q2/Q3/UT server which hasn't affected connectivity at all, as the game server goes up for only short periods and doesn't advertise at all.) The current machine itself: CPU: P2 233 Mobo: Asus PL97 LX-based motherboard RAM: 192MB Capacity: 15GB Contact Information: Charles E. Borner Jr. 1220 Maple Ave. Berwyn, IL 60402 Phone (Till 1/7/19100): 630-241-2225 Phone (After 1/7/2000): 708-749-7802 chas@evilnet.net accounts@evilnet.net --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. From BeenJaminG at aol.com Sun Jan 2 10:56:42 2000 From: BeenJaminG at aol.com (BeenJaminG@aol.com) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:55 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] Re: DALnet-src: Y2K bug in the ircd (dreamforge and below) Message-ID: 0.91a59bea.25a0f96a@aol.com In a message dated 1/2/00 9:46:16 AM Eastern Standard Time, andrewk@icon.co.za writes: > Well my bug is in the date() function (s_misc.c), where the reply string > is generated: > > (void)sprintf(buf, "%s %s %d 19%02d -- %02d:%02d %c%02d:%02d", > weekdays[lt->tm_wday], months[lt->tm_mon],lt->tm_mday, > lt->tm_year, lt->tm_hour, lt->tm_min, > plus, minswest/60, minswest%60); > > The "19", for the centuary, is hardcoded. > > After a very brief check, it looks like date() is only used by m_time(). > > Andrew (void)sprintf(buf, "%s %s %d %04d -- %02d:%02d %c%02d:%02d", weekdays[lt->tm_wday], months[lt->tm_mon],lt->tm_mday, lt->tm_year + 1900 , lt->tm_hour, lt->tm_min, plus, minswest/60, minswest%60); I simply took out the 19 and changed the formatting to %04d, then added 1900 to the year. I'm guessing this is going to affect a lot of people using services who are using dalnet-compatable ircds. I wrote a little patch yesterday for some server admins who wanted to fix the bug without messing in their source code. You can find it and instructions on applying it at http://www.mystical.net/~services/ircd/ -- bstu --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. From mike at icon.co.za Sun Jan 2 13:52:53 2000 From: mike at icon.co.za (Michael Smith) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:55 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] DreamForge 4.6.7 Message-ID: 2.2.32.20000102215253.00ca041c@shell.icon.co.za Hi Guys, I know I am going to be killed for this, but I have the following problem compiling Dreamforge 4.6.7 The following problem i get on Suse6.2 (which runs glibc 2.1). From what I can tell, glibc causes this problem. I was wondering if anyone has any patches, or has had success getting df467 to compile make Building src make[1]: Entering directory `/root/df467/src' gcc -I../include -O -g -c bsd.c -o bsd.o gcc -I../include -O -g -c dbuf.c -o dbuf.o gcc -I../include -O -g -c packet.c -o packet.o gcc -I../include -O -g -c send.c -o send.o gcc -I../include -O -g -c match.c -o match.o gcc -I../include -O -g -c parse.c -o parse.o gcc -I../include -O -g -c support.c -o support.o gcc -I../include -O -g -c channel.c gcc -I../include -O -g -c class.c gcc -I../include -O -g -c hash.c gcc -I../include -O -g -c ircd.c gcc -I../include -O -g -c list.c gcc -I../include -O -g -c res.c gcc -I../include -O -g -c s_auth.c gcc -I../include -O -g -c s_bsd.c gcc -I../include -O -g -c s_conf.c s_conf.c: In function `m_kline': s_conf.c:1962: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast s_conf.c: In function `m_unkline': s_conf.c:2056: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast gcc -I../include -O -g -c s_debug.c gcc -I../include -O -g -c s_err.c gcc -I../include -O -g -c s_misc.c gcc -I../include -O -g -c s_numeric.c gcc -I../include -O -g -c s_serv.c s_serv.c: In function `get_client_name2': s_serv.c:1478: warning: passing arg 1 of `strcpy' makes pointer from integer wit hout a cast gcc -I../include -O -g -c s_user.c gcc -I../include -O -g -c whowas.c gcc -I../include -O -g -c userload.c -o userload.o In file included from userload.c:35: /usr/include/string.h:266: conflicting types for `myncmp' ../include/common.h:77: previous declaration of `myncmp' make[1]: *** [userload.o] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/df467/src' make: *** [build] Error 2 Once Again, I know this doesnt belong on this list, but I are kinda desperate, and according to dalnet-src , the old df467 is no longer being maintained or supported Mike --- Michael Smith (Warlock on IRC) http://www.warlock.web.za "Do you smell something burning or is it me?" -- Joan of Arc --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. From achurch at dragonfire.net Mon Jan 3 11:19:38 2000 From: achurch at dragonfire.net (Andrew Church) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:55 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] DreamForge 4.6.7 Message-ID: 387007c6.65360@dragonfire.net >gcc -I../include -O -g -c userload.c -o userload.o >In file included from userload.c:35: >/usr/include/string.h:266: conflicting types for `myncmp' >../include/common.h:77: previous declaration of `myncmp' It looks like your system includes define "myncmp", which Dreamforge wants to use itself. The easiest solution would be to edit userload.c and bracket the #include for string.h with #define's to hide the system function: #define myncmp _builtin_myncmp #include #undef myncmp Good luck. --Andrew Church achurch@dragonfire.net http://achurch.dragonfire.net/ --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. From achurch at dragonfire.net Mon Jan 3 11:24:21 2000 From: achurch at dragonfire.net (Andrew Church) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:55 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] Re: DALnet-src: Y2K bug in the ircd (dreamforge and below) Message-ID: 38700b17.65431@dragonfire.net >> Well my bug is in the date() function (s_misc.c), where the reply string >> is generated: >> >> (void)sprintf(buf, "%s %s %d 19%02d -- %02d:%02d %c%02d:%02d", >> weekdays[lt->tm_wday], months[lt->tm_mon],lt->tm_mday, >> lt->tm_year, lt->tm_hour, lt->tm_min, >> plus, minswest/60, minswest%60); >> >> The "19", for the centuary, is hardcoded. Is it just me, or is this so completely braindead it's not even funny? Even assuming this is left over from the original ircd, that's still post-1990 code, and it would have taken some major guts (or stupidity) to assume that that code would no longer be in use by 2000. It doesn't even take any extra effort to write "%04d" and "lt->tm_year+1900" instead. _This_ is why programming should be left to experts. --Andrew Church achurch@dragonfire.net http://achurch.dragonfire.net/ --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. From listuser at bundynet.de Mon Jan 3 09:53:16 2000 From: listuser at bundynet.de (Stefan Funke) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:55 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] DreamForge 4.6.7 In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.20000102215253.00ca041c@shell.icon.co.za> References: 2.2.32.20000102215253.00ca041c@shell.icon.co.za Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.10.10001031851001.4486-100000@dragon.bundynet.lan On Sun, 2 Jan 2000, Michael Smith wrote: > Hi Guys, I know I am going to be killed for this, but I have the following > problem > compiling Dreamforge 4.6.7 > > The following problem i get on Suse6.2 (which runs glibc 2.1). From what I can > tell, glibc causes this problem. I was wondering if anyone has any patches, > or has had success getting df467 to compile Before you compile it look for a y2k patch for it. DF467 will have some bugs without it ;-) e.g.: > /time >> Monday January 3 19100 -- 18:52 +01:00 Greets... --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. From cgknipe at mweb.co.za Mon Jan 3 10:36:13 2000 From: cgknipe at mweb.co.za (Chris Knipe) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:55 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] DreamForge 4.6.7 In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.20000102215253.00ca041c@shell.icon.co.za> References: 2.2.32.20000102215253.00ca041c@shell.icon.co.za Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.10.10001032035070.5870-100000@darkwing.savage.za.org On Sun, 2 Jan 2000, Michael Smith wrote: This problem has also been confirmed on Redhat 6.0 and possible 6.2 systems. Cure. edit ./include/strings.h and comment out line 77. It works perfect then. Regards Me >Hi Guys, I know I am going to be killed for this, but I have the following >problem >compiling Dreamforge 4.6.7 > >The following problem i get on Suse6.2 (which runs glibc 2.1). From what I can >tell, glibc causes this problem. I was wondering if anyone has any patches, >or has had success getting df467 to compile > >make >Building src >make[1]: Entering directory `/root/df467/src' >gcc -I../include -O -g -c bsd.c -o bsd.o >gcc -I../include -O -g -c dbuf.c -o dbuf.o >gcc -I../include -O -g -c packet.c -o packet.o >gcc -I../include -O -g -c send.c -o send.o >gcc -I../include -O -g -c match.c -o match.o >gcc -I../include -O -g -c parse.c -o parse.o >gcc -I../include -O -g -c support.c -o support.o >gcc -I../include -O -g -c channel.c >gcc -I../include -O -g -c class.c >gcc -I../include -O -g -c hash.c >gcc -I../include -O -g -c ircd.c >gcc -I../include -O -g -c list.c >gcc -I../include -O -g -c res.c >gcc -I../include -O -g -c s_auth.c >gcc -I../include -O -g -c s_bsd.c >gcc -I../include -O -g -c s_conf.c >s_conf.c: In function `m_kline': >s_conf.c:1962: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast >s_conf.c: In function `m_unkline': >s_conf.c:2056: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast >gcc -I../include -O -g -c s_debug.c >gcc -I../include -O -g -c s_err.c >gcc -I../include -O -g -c s_misc.c >gcc -I../include -O -g -c s_numeric.c >gcc -I../include -O -g -c s_serv.c >s_serv.c: In function `get_client_name2': >s_serv.c:1478: warning: passing arg 1 of `strcpy' makes pointer from integer wit >hout a cast >gcc -I../include -O -g -c s_user.c >gcc -I../include -O -g -c whowas.c >gcc -I../include -O -g -c userload.c -o userload.o >In file included from userload.c:35: >/usr/include/string.h:266: conflicting types for `myncmp' >../include/common.h:77: previous declaration of `myncmp' >make[1]: *** [userload.o] Error 1 >make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/df467/src' >make: *** [build] Error 2 > >Once Again, I know this doesnt belong on this list, but I are kinda >desperate, and according to dalnet-src , the old df467 is no longer being >maintained or supported > >Mike > >--- >Michael Smith (Warlock on IRC) >http://www.warlock.web.za > "Do you smell something burning or is it me?" > -- Joan of Arc > >--------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org >with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. > --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. From mike at icon.co.za Mon Jan 3 12:03:25 2000 From: mike at icon.co.za (Michael Smith) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:55 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] DreamForge 4.6.7 Message-ID: 2.2.32.20000103200325.0071d268@shell.icon.co.za Nopes, did what u said, get tonnes of messages... Building src make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/ircd/src/df467/src' gcc -I../include -O -g -c bsd.c -o bsd.o gcc -I../include -O -g -c dbuf.c -o dbuf.o gcc -I../include -O -g -c packet.c -o packet.o gcc -I../include -O -g -c send.c -o send.o gcc -I../include -O -g -c match.c -o match.o gcc -I../include -O -g -c parse.c -o parse.o gcc -I../include -O -g -c support.c -o support.o gcc -I../include -O -g -c channel.c gcc -I../include -O -g -c class.c gcc -I../include -O -g -c hash.c gcc -I../include -O -g -c ircd.c gcc -I../include -O -g -c list.c gcc -I../include -O -g -c res.c gcc -I../include -O -g -c s_auth.c gcc -I../include -O -g -c s_bsd.c gcc -I../include -O -g -c s_conf.c s_conf.c: In function `m_kline': s_conf.c:1962: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast s_conf.c: In function `m_unkline': s_conf.c:2056: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast gcc -I../include -O -g -c s_debug.c gcc -I../include -O -g -c s_err.c gcc -I../include -O -g -c s_misc.c gcc -I../include -O -g -c s_numeric.c gcc -I../include -O -g -c s_serv.c s_serv.c: In function `get_client_name2': s_serv.c:1478: warning: passing arg 1 of `strcpy' makes pointer from integer without a cast gcc -I../include -O -g -c s_user.c gcc -I../include -O -g -c whowas.c gcc -I../include -O -g -c userload.c -o userload.o gcc -I../include -O -g -c crule.c gcc -I../include -O -g -c help.c -o help.o gcc -I../include -O -g -c md5.c -o md5.o /bin/sh version.c.SH Extracting IRC/ircd/version.c... gcc -I../include -O -g -c version.c gcc -I../include -O -g -c res_skipname.c -o res_skipname.o gcc -I../include -O -g bsd.o dbuf.o packet.o send.o match.o parse.o support.o channel.o class.o hash.o ircd.o list.o res.o s_auth.o s_bsd.o s_conf.o s_debug.o s_err.o s_misc.o s_numeric.o s_serv.o s_user.o whowas.o userload.o crule.o help.o md5.o version.o res_skipname.o -o ircd dbuf.o: warning: multiple common of `global_count' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here dbuf.o: warning: multiple common of `max_global_count' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here dbuf.o: warning: multiple common of `now' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here packet.o: warning: multiple common of `global_count' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here packet.o: warning: multiple common of `max_global_count' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here packet.o: warning: multiple common of `now' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here send.o: warning: multiple common of `global_count' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here send.o: warning: multiple common of `max_global_count' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here send.o: warning: multiple common of `now' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here match.o: warning: multiple common of `global_count' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here match.o: warning: multiple common of `max_global_count' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here match.o: warning: multiple common of `now' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here parse.o: warning: multiple common of `global_count' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here parse.o: warning: multiple common of `max_global_count' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here parse.o: warning: multiple common of `now' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here support.o: warning: multiple common of `global_count' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here support.o: warning: multiple common of `max_global_count' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here support.o: warning: multiple common of `now' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here channel.o: warning: multiple common of `global_count' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here channel.o: warning: multiple common of `max_global_count' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here channel.o: warning: multiple common of `now' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here class.o: warning: multiple common of `global_count' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here class.o: warning: multiple common of `max_global_count' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here class.o: warning: multiple common of `now' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here hash.o: warning: multiple common of `global_count' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here hash.o: warning: multiple common of `max_global_count' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here hash.o: warning: multiple common of `now' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here ircd.o: warning: multiple common of `now' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here ircd.o: warning: multiple common of `global_count' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here ircd.o: warning: multiple common of `max_global_count' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here list.o: warning: multiple common of `global_count' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here list.o: warning: multiple common of `max_global_count' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here list.o: warning: multiple common of `now' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here res.o: warning: multiple common of `global_count' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here res.o: warning: multiple common of `max_global_count' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here res.o: warning: multiple common of `now' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here s_auth.o: warning: multiple common of `global_count' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here s_auth.o: warning: multiple common of `max_global_count' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here s_auth.o: warning: multiple common of `now' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here s_bsd.o: warning: multiple common of `global_count' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here s_bsd.o: warning: multiple common of `max_global_count' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here s_bsd.o: warning: multiple common of `now' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here s_conf.o: warning: multiple common of `global_count' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here s_conf.o: warning: multiple common of `max_global_count' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here s_conf.o: warning: multiple common of `now' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here s_debug.o: warning: multiple common of `global_count' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here s_debug.o: warning: multiple common of `max_global_count' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here s_debug.o: warning: multiple common of `now' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here s_err.o: warning: multiple common of `global_count' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here s_err.o: warning: multiple common of `max_global_count' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here s_err.o: warning: multiple common of `now' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here s_misc.o: warning: multiple common of `global_count' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here s_misc.o: warning: multiple common of `max_global_count' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here s_misc.o: warning: multiple common of `now' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here s_numeric.o: warning: multiple common of `global_count' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here s_numeric.o: warning: multiple common of `max_global_count' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here s_numeric.o: warning: multiple common of `now' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here s_serv.o: warning: multiple common of `global_count' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here s_serv.o: warning: multiple common of `max_global_count' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here s_serv.o: warning: multiple common of `now' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here s_user.o: warning: multiple common of `now' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here s_user.o: warning: multiple common of `max_global_count' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here s_user.o: warning: multiple common of `global_count' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here whowas.o: warning: multiple common of `global_count' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here whowas.o: warning: multiple common of `max_global_count' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here whowas.o: warning: multiple common of `now' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here userload.o: warning: multiple common of `global_count' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here userload.o: warning: multiple common of `max_global_count' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here userload.o: warning: multiple common of `now' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here crule.o: warning: multiple common of `global_count' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here crule.o: warning: multiple common of `max_global_count' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here crule.o: warning: multiple common of `now' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here help.o: warning: multiple common of `global_count' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here help.o: warning: multiple common of `max_global_count' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here help.o: warning: multiple common of `now' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here md5.o: warning: multiple common of `global_count' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here md5.o: warning: multiple common of `max_global_count' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here md5.o: warning: multiple common of `now' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here version.o: warning: multiple common of `global_count' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here version.o: warning: multiple common of `max_global_count' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here version.o: warning: multiple common of `now' bsd.o: warning: previous common is here res.o: In function `query_name': /usr/local/ircd/src/df467/src/res.c:528: undefined reference to `res_mkquery' res.o: In function `proc_answer': /usr/local/ircd/src/df467/src/res.c:617: undefined reference to `dn_expand' /usr/local/ircd/src/df467/src/res.c:622: undefined reference to `_getshort' /usr/local/ircd/src/df467/src/res.c:624: undefined reference to `_getshort' /usr/local/ircd/src/df467/src/res.c:626: undefined reference to `_getlong' /usr/local/ircd/src/df467/src/res.c:628: undefined reference to `_getshort' /usr/local/ircd/src/df467/src/res.c:665: undefined reference to `dn_expand' s_user.o: In function `m_oper': /usr/local/ircd/src/df467/src/s_user.c:2642: undefined reference to `crypt' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[1]: *** [ircd] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/ircd/src/df467/src' make: *** [build] Error 2 Bah Btw - its ./include/common.h, not strings.h Mike At 08:36 PM 03/01/00 +0200, you wrote: >On Sun, 2 Jan 2000, Michael Smith wrote: > >This problem has also been confirmed on Redhat 6.0 and possible 6.2 >systems. > > >Cure. edit ./include/strings.h and comment out line 77. It works perfect >then. > >Regards >Me > > > >>Hi Guys, I know I am going to be killed for this, but I have the following >>problem >>compiling Dreamforge 4.6.7 >> >>The following problem i get on Suse6.2 (which runs glibc 2.1). From what I can >>tell, glibc causes this problem. I was wondering if anyone has any patches, >>or has had success getting df467 to compile >> >>make >>Building src >>make[1]: Entering directory `/root/df467/src' >>gcc -I../include -O -g -c bsd.c -o bsd.o >>gcc -I../include -O -g -c dbuf.c -o dbuf.o >>gcc -I../include -O -g -c packet.c -o packet.o >>gcc -I../include -O -g -c send.c -o send.o >>gcc -I../include -O -g -c match.c -o match.o >>gcc -I../include -O -g -c parse.c -o parse.o >>gcc -I../include -O -g -c support.c -o support.o >>gcc -I../include -O -g -c channel.c >>gcc -I../include -O -g -c class.c >>gcc -I../include -O -g -c hash.c >>gcc -I../include -O -g -c ircd.c >>gcc -I../include -O -g -c list.c >>gcc -I../include -O -g -c res.c >>gcc -I../include -O -g -c s_auth.c >>gcc -I../include -O -g -c s_bsd.c >>gcc -I../include -O -g -c s_conf.c >>s_conf.c: In function `m_kline': >>s_conf.c:1962: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast >>s_conf.c: In function `m_unkline': >>s_conf.c:2056: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast >>gcc -I../include -O -g -c s_debug.c >>gcc -I../include -O -g -c s_err.c >>gcc -I../include -O -g -c s_misc.c >>gcc -I../include -O -g -c s_numeric.c >>gcc -I../include -O -g -c s_serv.c >>s_serv.c: In function `get_client_name2': >>s_serv.c:1478: warning: passing arg 1 of `strcpy' makes pointer from integer wit >>hout a cast >>gcc -I../include -O -g -c s_user.c >>gcc -I../include -O -g -c whowas.c >>gcc -I../include -O -g -c userload.c -o userload.o >>In file included from userload.c:35: >>/usr/include/string.h:266: conflicting types for `myncmp' >>../include/common.h:77: previous declaration of `myncmp' >>make[1]: *** [userload.o] Error 1 >>make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/df467/src' >>make: *** [build] Error 2 >> >>Once Again, I know this doesnt belong on this list, but I are kinda >>desperate, and according to dalnet-src , the old df467 is no longer being >>maintained or supported >> >>Mike >> >>--- >>Michael Smith (Warlock on IRC) >>http://www.warlock.web.za >> "Do you smell something burning or is it me?" >> -- Joan of Arc >> >>--------------------------------------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org >>with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. >> > >--------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org >with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. > > --- Michael Smith (Warlock on IRC) http://www.warlock.web.za "Do you smell something burning or is it me?" -- Joan of Arc --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. From lonewolf at lagnet.org.za Mon Jan 3 13:33:46 2000 From: lonewolf at lagnet.org.za (Lonewolf) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:55 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] DreamForge 4.6.7 In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.20000103200325.0071d268@shell.icon.co.za>; from "Michael Smith" on Mon, Jan 03, 2000 at 10:03:25PM References: <2.2.32.20000103200325.0071d268@shell.icon.co.za> Message-ID: 20000103233346.A5100@apotheosis.org.za On Mon, Jan 03, 2000 at 10:03:25PM +0200, Michael Smith wrote: > Nopes, did what u said, get tonnes of messages... [ snip. ] > /usr/local/ircd/src/df467/src/res.c:528: undefined reference to `res_mkquery' > res.o: In function `proc_answer': > /usr/local/ircd/src/df467/src/res.c:617: undefined reference to `dn_expand' > /usr/local/ircd/src/df467/src/res.c:622: undefined reference to `_getshort' > /usr/local/ircd/src/df467/src/res.c:624: undefined reference to `_getshort' > /usr/local/ircd/src/df467/src/res.c:626: undefined reference to `_getlong' > /usr/local/ircd/src/df467/src/res.c:628: undefined reference to `_getshort' > /usr/local/ircd/src/df467/src/res.c:665: undefined reference to `dn_expand' These are from libresolv. > s_user.o: In function `m_oper': > /usr/local/ircd/src/df467/src/s_user.c:2642: undefined reference to `crypt' > collect2: ld returned 1 exit status These are from libcrypt. [ snip. ] The "./Config" script will ask you if you need any "extra libraries", put "-lresolv -lcrypt". Once that's done, apply the following to include/sys.h: --- include/sys.h.old Mon Jan 3 23:31:07 2000 +++ include/sys.h Mon Jan 3 23:26:12 2000 @@ -103,9 +103,9 @@ #endif /* - * Different name on NetBSD, FreeBSD, and BSDI + * Different name on NetBSD, FreeBSD, and BSDI and now Linux! */ -#if defined(__NetBSD__) || defined(__FreeBSD__) || defined(__bsdi__) +#if defined(__NetBSD__) || defined(__FreeBSD__) || defined(__bsdi__) || defined(__linux__) #define dn_skipname __dn_skipname #endif It should then compile, though messily. -- lonewolf@lagnet.org.za --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. From mike at icon.co.za Mon Jan 3 14:14:26 2000 From: mike at icon.co.za (Michael Smith) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:55 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] Services 4.3.2 Message-ID: 2.2.32.20000103221426.0073ab24@shell.icon.co.za Okay - now i can happily post this :) gcc actions.o akill.o channels.o chanserv.o commands.o compat.o config.o datafiles.o encrypt.o helpserv.o init.o language.o list.o log.o main.o memory.o memoserv.o messages.o misc.o news.o nickserv.o operserv.o process.o send.o sessions.o sockutil.o timeout.o users.o -lbsd -o services /usr/i486-linux/bin/ld: cannot open -lbsd: No such file or directory collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make: *** [services] Error 1 Also , suse 6.2, glibc2.1 Help Mike At 11:33 PM 03/01/00 +0200, you wrote: >On Mon, Jan 03, 2000 at 10:03:25PM +0200, Michael Smith wrote: >> Nopes, did what u said, get tonnes of messages... > >[ snip. ] >> /usr/local/ircd/src/df467/src/res.c:528: undefined reference to `res_mkquery' >> res.o: In function `proc_answer': >> /usr/local/ircd/src/df467/src/res.c:617: undefined reference to `dn_expand' >> /usr/local/ircd/src/df467/src/res.c:622: undefined reference to `_getshort' >> /usr/local/ircd/src/df467/src/res.c:624: undefined reference to `_getshort' >> /usr/local/ircd/src/df467/src/res.c:626: undefined reference to `_getlong' >> /usr/local/ircd/src/df467/src/res.c:628: undefined reference to `_getshort' >> /usr/local/ircd/src/df467/src/res.c:665: undefined reference to `dn_expand' >These are from libresolv. > >> s_user.o: In function `m_oper': >> /usr/local/ircd/src/df467/src/s_user.c:2642: undefined reference to `crypt' >> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status >These are from libcrypt. > >[ snip. ] > >The "./Config" script will ask you if you need any "extra libraries", put >"-lresolv -lcrypt". > >Once that's done, apply the following to include/sys.h: >--- include/sys.h.old Mon Jan 3 23:31:07 2000 >+++ include/sys.h Mon Jan 3 23:26:12 2000 >@@ -103,9 +103,9 @@ > #endif > > /* >- * Different name on NetBSD, FreeBSD, and BSDI >+ * Different name on NetBSD, FreeBSD, and BSDI and now Linux! > */ >-#if defined(__NetBSD__) || defined(__FreeBSD__) || defined(__bsdi__) >+#if defined(__NetBSD__) || defined(__FreeBSD__) || defined(__bsdi__) || defined(__linux__) > #define dn_skipname __dn_skipname > #endif > >It should then compile, though messily. > >-- >lonewolf@lagnet.org.za >--------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org >with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. > > --- Michael Smith (Warlock on IRC) http://www.warlock.web.za "Do you smell something burning or is it me?" -- Joan of Arc --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. From v13 at it.teithe.gr Mon Jan 3 15:19:15 2000 From: v13 at it.teithe.gr (Harhalakis Stefanos) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:55 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] Services 4.3.2 In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.20000103221426.0073ab24@shell.icon.co.za> References: 2.2.32.20000103221426.0073ab24@shell.icon.co.za Message-ID: Pine.SGI.4.05.10001040115430.17536-100000@aetos.it.teithe.gr On Tue, 4 Jan 2000, Michael Smith wrote: > Okay - now i can happily post this :) > > gcc actions.o akill.o channels.o chanserv.o commands.o compat.o config.o > datafiles.o encrypt.o helpserv.o init.o language.o list.o log.o main.o > memory.o memoserv.o messages.o misc.o news.o nickserv.o operserv.o process.o > send.o sessions.o sockutil.o timeout.o users.o -lbsd -o services > /usr/i486-linux/bin/ld: cannot open -lbsd: No such file or directory > collect2: ld returned 1 exit status > make: *** [services] Error 1 Can you *PLEASE* stop this? Just use your emails to continue. I don't want to know how to compile the ircd on your computer. > Mike <> --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. From atcarr at hotmail.com Mon Jan 3 18:28:31 2000 From: atcarr at hotmail.com (The Phantom of the Internet) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:55 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] Services 4.3.2 Message-ID: 20000104022831.15700.qmail@hotmail.com I personally do not see a problem with someone posting questions when they run into problems compiling but please if you are going to respond to a message could you at least follow proper posting procedures and only copy the message parts which you want to respond to? We all receive the first message so there is no need to resend the entire text. As an example: /usr/i486-linux/bin/ld: cannot open -lbsd: No such file or directory collect2: ld returned 1 exit statusmake: *** [services] Error 1 This appears to be stating that you are missing some compile variables on your system you might want to search to see if that file is missing or not. The Phantom ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. From lebleu at prefer.net Tue Jan 4 12:01:31 2000 From: lebleu at prefer.net (Kevin) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:55 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] Services 4.3.2 In-Reply-To: <20000104022831.15700.qmail@hotmail.com> References: 20000104022831.15700.qmail@hotmail.com Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.21.0001041359020.31642-100000@hades.bleu.paganpaths.org On Mon, 3 Jan 2000, The Phantom of the Internet wrote: > > /usr/i486-linux/bin/ld: cannot open -lbsd: No such file or directory > collect2: ld returned 1 exit statusmake: *** [services] Error 1 > > This appears to be stating that you are missing some compile variables on > your system you might want to search to see if that file is missing or not. Actually, it's stating that they are missing libbsd. Most likely the problem is somehow they got it configured for bsd instead of linux, since I don't know of any libbsd for linux. Re-running ./configure might be a good idea... might need to empty config.cache too. --Kevin -- PaganPaths IRC Network - irc.paganpaths.org - http://www.paganpaths.org/ PPCR Pagan Internet Radio - http://www.paganpaths.org/radio/ If you're reading this you're part of the mass hallucination that is Kevin the Blue. Copyright 1999 Kevin the Blue PGP public key at http://www.lebl.eu.org/~lebleu/mypublickey.asc Wear a blue ribbon today to show your solidarity for freedom of speech on the Internet! --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. From andrewk at icon.co.za Tue Jan 4 13:27:41 2000 From: andrewk at icon.co.za (Andrew Kempe) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:55 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] Services 4.3.2 Message-ID: NCBBIPDDJGGDOCPMKPKPAEPBDAAA.andrewk@icon.co.za [this bounced] From: achurch@dragonfire.net (Andrew Church) To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org Subject: Re: [IRCServices] Services 4.3.2 Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 21:48:45 JST >gcc actions.o akill.o channels.o chanserv.o commands.o compat.o config.o >datafiles.o encrypt.o helpserv.o init.o language.o list.o log.o main.o >memory.o memoserv.o messages.o misc.o news.o nickserv.o operserv.o process.o >send.o sessions.o sockutil.o timeout.o users.o -lbsd -o services >/usr/i486-linux/bin/ld: cannot open -lbsd: No such file or directory Are you running with a config.cache from another system? Try removing config.cache and rerunning the configure script, then recompiling. --Andrew Church achurch@dragonfire.net http://achurch.dragonfire.net/ --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. From muerte22 at hotmail.com Tue Jan 4 13:38:23 2000 From: muerte22 at hotmail.com (Angel of Death) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:55 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] Services Message-ID: 20000104213823.41133.qmail@hotmail.com Just a question/comment/suggestion for the coding team. Wouldn't it be an idea to make a backup link or 2 in the services.conf for if a server goes down it can try to link to another one like ircd's do. I mean for smaller shell networks servers come up and down or lag, so i think it would be a big benifit. Muerte /server irc.acestar.org www.acestar.org ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. From mike at icon.co.za Tue Jan 4 14:33:09 2000 From: mike at icon.co.za (Michael Smith) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:55 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] Services 4.3.2 Message-ID: 2.2.32.20000104223309.00bd7730@shell.icon.co.za >From: achurch@dragonfire.net (Andrew Church) > Are you running with a config.cache from another system? Try removing >config.cache and rerunning the configure script, then recompiling. > Thanks, this worked. I had re-run the configure script, but I didnt remove the config.cache. Once I removed it , it compiled just dandy. BTW - wasnt there mention of another list for ircd based stuff. I'm sorry to have spammed you guys, but dalnet dont support it anymore, and i reconed that the chaps that WOULD know would be the chaps on this list. I was right, and my problem was sorted Thanks Guys Mike --- Michael Smith (Warlock on IRC) http://www.warlock.web.za "Do you smell something burning or is it me?" -- Joan of Arc --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. From andrewk at icon.co.za Wed Jan 5 11:54:47 2000 From: andrewk at icon.co.za (Andrew Kempe) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:55 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] Services In-Reply-To: <20000104213823.41133.qmail@hotmail.com> References: 20000104213823.41133.qmail@hotmail.com Message-ID: NCBBIPDDJGGDOCPMKPKPCEPHDAAA.andrewk@icon.co.za Services really should be connected to an ircd on the same box as itself. If this ircd looses connectivity to the outside world for some reason, there is little chance Services is going to succeed. Andrew > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org > [mailto:owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org]On Behalf Of Angel of > Death > Sent: 04 January 2000 23:38 > To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org > Subject: [IRCServices] Services > > > > Just a question/comment/suggestion for the coding team. Wouldn't it be an > idea to make a backup link or 2 in the services.conf for if a server goes > down it can try to link to another one like ircd's do. I mean for smaller > shell networks servers come up and down or lag, so i think it > would be a big > benifit. > > > Muerte > /server irc.acestar.org > www.acestar.org > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org > with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. > --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. From muerte22 at hotmail.com Wed Jan 5 19:46:35 2000 From: muerte22 at hotmail.com (Angel of Death) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:55 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] Services Message-ID: 20000106034636.82081.qmail@hotmail.com I agree, but for one reason or another that ircd may shutdown or something, i've seen it happen. And the services don't have a place to link back to. Or someone has a shell that only allows 1 proccess and they wish to use it for the services and it can only connect to 1 server. if that server dies, the network is basically SOL until the person can manually move services or that server comes back up and services are crontab'd. Just an idea, i know i'd like it. Muerte Network Founder /server irc.acestar.org home of #Rom and EliteIRCD >From: "Andrew Kempe" >Reply-To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org >To: >Subject: RE: [IRCServices] Services >Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 21:54:47 +0200 > >Services really should be connected to an ircd on the same box as itself. >If >this ircd looses connectivity to the outside world for some reason, there >is >little chance Services is going to succeed. > >Andrew > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org > > [mailto:owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org]On Behalf Of Angel of > > Death > > Sent: 04 January 2000 23:38 > > To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org > > Subject: [IRCServices] Services > > > > > > > > Just a question/comment/suggestion for the coding team. Wouldn't it be >an > > idea to make a backup link or 2 in the services.conf for if a server >goes > > down it can try to link to another one like ircd's do. I mean for >smaller > > shell networks servers come up and down or lag, so i think it > > would be a big > > benifit. > > > > > > Muerte > > /server irc.acestar.org > > www.acestar.org > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org > > with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org >with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. From lebleu at prefer.net Wed Jan 5 20:36:37 2000 From: lebleu at prefer.net (Kevin) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:56 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] Services In-Reply-To: <20000106034636.82081.qmail@hotmail.com> References: 20000106034636.82081.qmail@hotmail.com Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.21.0001052234430.15616-100000@hades.bleu.paganpaths.org On Wed, 5 Jan 2000, Angel of Death wrote: > I agree, but for one reason or another that ircd may shutdown or something, > i've seen it happen. And the services don't have a place to link back to. Or I have cronjobs for both services and my ircd that will auto-restart them w/in 10 minutes if they go down to avoid such a problem. (Though I really haven't had it, my ircd never seems to go down unexpectedly) --Kevin -- If you're reading this you're part of the mass hallucination that is Kevin the Blue. Copyright 1999 Kevin the Blue PGP public key at http://www.lebl.eu.org/~lebleu/mypublickey.asc Wear a blue ribbon today to show your solidarity for freedom of speech on the Internet! --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. From cgknipe at mweb.co.za Thu Jan 6 06:19:33 2000 From: cgknipe at mweb.co.za (Chris Knipe) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:56 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] Services In-Reply-To: <20000106034636.82081.qmail@hotmail.com> References: 20000106034636.82081.qmail@hotmail.com Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.10.10001061619110.17550-100000@darkwing.savage.za.org On Wed, 5 Jan 2000, Angel of Death wrote: >I agree, but for one reason or another that ircd may shutdown or something, >i've seen it happen. And the services don't have a place to link back to. Or >someone has a shell that only allows 1 proccess and they wish to use it for >the services and it can only connect to 1 server. if that server dies, the >network is basically SOL until the person can manually move services or that >server comes back up and services are crontab'd. Just an idea, i know i'd >like it. Use an crontab to automatically restard the IRCD and services ?? *frown* Regards Chris Knipe Cel: (083) 430 8151 Freelance Internet Developer, Consultant, Administrator & Speaker --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. From johnl at potomacnet.com Thu Jan 6 05:14:28 2000 From: johnl at potomacnet.com (John Lamb) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:56 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] Services Message-ID: 200001061814.NAA22405@dns1.potomacnetworks.com I don't think everyone is understanding the situation presented here. Say you have Services running on server A. Services links to server B, not an ircd on the same box (A). Server B crashes. Now Services are no where because the .conf file only has one server (B) to link to. This is correctable if a person with access to server A is around to edit the .conf file, but the situation is that, that person is not around. So the asked for solution is to have multiple S:lines in the .conf file that Services would attempt to link to in the event the primary is down. Setting up a crontab to restart the ircd on server B is moot because server B is dead. This is what I gathered from Angel's emails. Correct me if I'm wrong. !K You wrote: > From: Chris Knipe > To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org > Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 16:19:33 +0200 (SAST) > Subject: RE: [IRCServices] Services > > > On Wed, 5 Jan 2000, Angel of Death wrote: > > >I agree, but for one reason or another that ircd may shutdown or something, > >i've seen it happen. And the services don't have a place to link back to. Or > >someone has a shell that only allows 1 proccess and they wish to use it for > >the services and it can only connect to 1 server. if that server dies, the > >network is basically SOL until the person can manually move services or that > >server comes back up and services are crontab'd. Just an idea, i know i'd > >like it. > > Use an crontab to automatically restard the IRCD and services ?? *frown* > > Regards > Chris Knipe > Cel: (083) 430 8151 > Freelance Internet Developer, Consultant, Administrator & Speaker --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. From muerte22 at hotmail.com Thu Jan 6 10:38:37 2000 From: muerte22 at hotmail.com (Angel of Death) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:56 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] Services Message-ID: 20000106183837.56782.qmail@hotmail.com I'm reffering if they are on DIFFERENT boxes for some reason. Are if something were jsut to effect it, it was just an idea. And crontab won't make it link to a different server. >From: Chris Knipe >Reply-To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org >To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org >Subject: RE: [IRCServices] Services >Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 16:19:33 +0200 (SAST) > >On Wed, 5 Jan 2000, Angel of Death wrote: > > >I agree, but for one reason or another that ircd may shutdown or >something, > >i've seen it happen. And the services don't have a place to link back to. >Or > >someone has a shell that only allows 1 proccess and they wish to use it >for > >the services and it can only connect to 1 server. if that server dies, >the > >network is basically SOL until the person can manually move services or >that > >server comes back up and services are crontab'd. Just an idea, i know >i'd > >like it. > >Use an crontab to automatically restard the IRCD and services ?? *frown* > >Regards >Chris Knipe >Cel: (083) 430 8151 >Freelance Internet Developer, Consultant, Administrator & Speaker > > >--------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org >with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. From muerte22 at hotmail.com Thu Jan 6 13:36:39 2000 From: muerte22 at hotmail.com (Angel of Death) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:56 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] Services Message-ID: 20000106213639.16411.qmail@hotmail.com EXACTLY :) Thanks John Muerte /server irc.acestar.org >From: John Lamb >Reply-To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org >To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org >Subject: RE: [IRCServices] Services >Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 13:14:28 z (EST) > >I don't think everyone is understanding the situation presented here. Say >you have Services running on server A. Services links to server B, not an >ircd on the same box (A). Server B crashes. Now Services are no where >because the .conf file only has one server (B) to link to. This is >correctable if a person with access to server A is around to edit the .conf >file, but the situation is that, that person is not around. So the asked >for solution is to have multiple S:lines in the .conf file that Services >would attempt to link to in the event the primary is down. Setting up a >crontab to restart the ircd on server B is moot because server B is dead. >This is what I gathered from Angel's emails. Correct me if I'm wrong. > >!K > >You wrote: ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. From dragon at wastelands.net Fri Jan 7 01:08:47 2000 From: dragon at wastelands.net (Gaven Cohen) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:56 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] ChanServ KICK command(?) In-Reply-To: References: Pine.LNX.4.20.9912222230020.2081-100000@darkness.darkness.gr Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.10.10001071105100.2564-100000@dragon.wastelands.net On Wed, 22 Dec 1999, Nick Krassas wrote: > Greetings all, > one idea is that a user having access at one channel could easy > put a akick to the user that is not wanted in the channel. a second > reason, is the kick going to be anonymous ? and is this correct ? Its fairly easy to define a number of switches which channel founders could use to control kick usage. - enabled or not - anonymous or kicker in the kick reason - etc. Personally, I found anonymous kicks (such as when I use a bot) quite useful, provided all the channel ops are mature and responsible. Sure, its easy enough to just ignore someone you've kicked for bad behaviour or whatever, but its useful to have a non-person to be the recipient of bad vibes :) See ya, Gaven --- Gaven Cohen aka Kinslayer www.wastelands.net freelance sysadmin/programmer HABONIM DROR linux, fantasy enthusiast RSA/1024 0xFC82B78F 4B 43 3C 20 47 58 AF AC DB 1E 7F 6E 64 08 15 7E --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. From jacques at aquarius.natey.za.net Thu Jan 6 14:10:09 2000 From: jacques at aquarius.natey.za.net (Jacques Marneweck) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:56 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] Services In-Reply-To: <200001061814.NAA22405@dns1.potomacnetworks.com> References: 200001061814.NAA22405@dns1.potomacnetworks.com Message-ID: Pine.BSF.4.10.10001062208430.27798-100000@aquarius.natey.za.net On Thu, 6 Jan 2000, John Lamb wrote: > I don't think everyone is understanding the situation presented here. Say you have Services running on server A. Services links to server B, not an ircd on the same box (A). Server B crashes. Now Services are no where because the .conf file only has one server (B) to link to. This is correctable if a person with access to server A is around to edit the .conf file, but the situation is that, that person is not around. So the asked for solution is to have multiple S:lines in the .conf file that Services would attempt to link to in the event the primary is down. Setting up a crontab to restart the ircd on server B is moot because server B is dead. This is what I gathered from Angel's emails. Correct me if I'm wrong. Easy: DNS: services-uplink-entry-point.your.domain in DNS services-uplink-entry-point IN A 196.14.22.5 IN A 196.14.22.14 etc. That way the servers who's IP's are listed above get services connecting to them on a round-robin basis. Regards Jacques > > !K > > You wrote: > > > From: Chris Knipe > > To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org > > Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 16:19:33 +0200 (SAST) > > Subject: RE: [IRCServices] Services > > > > > > On Wed, 5 Jan 2000, Angel of Death wrote: > > > > >I agree, but for one reason or another that ircd may shutdown or something, > > >i've seen it happen. And the services don't have a place to link back to. Or > > >someone has a shell that only allows 1 proccess and they wish to use it for > > >the services and it can only connect to 1 server. if that server dies, the > > >network is basically SOL until the person can manually move services or that > > >server comes back up and services are crontab'd. Just an idea, i know i'd > > >like it. > > > > Use an crontab to automatically restard the IRCD and services ?? *frown* > > > > Regards > > Chris Knipe > > Cel: (083) 430 8151 > > Freelance Internet Developer, Consultant, Administrator & Speaker > --------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org > with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. > --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. From JohnL at potomacnet.com Sat Jan 8 12:51:16 2000 From: JohnL at potomacnet.com (John Lamb) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:56 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] Services In-Reply-To: References: <200001061814.NAA22405@dns1.potomacnetworks.com> Message-ID: 3.0.6.32.20000108155116.007994b0@mail.potomacnet.com Altering DNS zone files to accomplish such a task is not only backwards, but dangerous. You have also created the need for a person with access to the DNS server to make such a change. Where the previous suggestion eliminated the need for anyone. !K At 10:10 PM 1/6/00 +0000, you wrote: >Easy: > >DNS: services-uplink-entry-point.your.domain > >in DNS > >services-uplink-entry-point IN A 196.14.22.5 > IN A 196.14.22.14 > >etc. > >That way the servers who's IP's are listed above get services connecting >to them on a round-robin basis. > >Regards >Jacques --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. From joshodom at uswest.net Sat Jan 8 02:30:14 2000 From: joshodom at uswest.net (Josh Odom) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:56 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] Services In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000108155116.007994b0@mail.potomacnet.com> References: 3.0.6.32.20000108155116.007994b0@mail.potomacnet.com Message-ID: LNBBIDPHKBGLGHDPOHNACEGECAAA.joshodom@uswest.net Not Dangerous. -----Original Message----- From: owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org [mailto:owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org]On Behalf Of John Lamb Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2000 12:51 PM To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org Subject: RE: [IRCServices] Services Altering DNS zone files to accomplish such a task is not only backwards, but dangerous. You have also created the need for a person with access to the DNS server to make such a change. Where the previous suggestion eliminated the need for anyone. !K At 10:10 PM 1/6/00 +0000, you wrote: >Easy: > >DNS: services-uplink-entry-point.your.domain > >in DNS > >services-uplink-entry-point IN A 196.14.22.5 > IN A 196.14.22.14 > >etc. > >That way the servers who's IP's are listed above get services connecting >to them on a round-robin basis. > >Regards >Jacques --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. From muerte22 at hotmail.com Sat Jan 8 16:35:24 2000 From: muerte22 at hotmail.com (Angel of Death) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:56 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] Services Message-ID: 20000109003524.86506.qmail@hotmail.com That's an idea. that might work. hehe. Muerte >From: Jacques Marneweck >Reply-To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org >To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org >Subject: RE: [IRCServices] Services >Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 22:10:09 +0000 (GMT) > >On Thu, 6 Jan 2000, John Lamb wrote: > > > I don't think everyone is understanding the situation presented here. >Say you have Services running on server A. Services links to server B, not >an ircd on the same box (A). Server B crashes. Now Services are no where >because the .conf file only has one server (B) to link to. This is >correctable if a person with access to server A is around to edit the .conf >file, but the situation is that, that person is not around. So the asked >for solution is to have multiple S:lines in the .conf file that Services >would attempt to link to in the event the primary is down. Setting up a >crontab to restart the ircd on server B is moot because server B is dead. >This is what I gathered from Angel's emails. Correct me if I'm wrong. > >Easy: > >DNS: services-uplink-entry-point.your.domain > >in DNS > >services-uplink-entry-point IN A 196.14.22.5 > IN A 196.14.22.14 > >etc. > >That way the servers who's IP's are listed above get services connecting >to them on a round-robin basis. > >Regards >Jacques > > > > > !K > > > > You wrote: > > > > > From: Chris Knipe > > > To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org > > > Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 16:19:33 +0200 (SAST) > > > Subject: RE: [IRCServices] Services > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 5 Jan 2000, Angel of Death wrote: > > > > > > >I agree, but for one reason or another that ircd may shutdown or >something, > > > >i've seen it happen. And the services don't have a place to link back >to. Or > > > >someone has a shell that only allows 1 proccess and they wish to use >it for > > > >the services and it can only connect to 1 server. if that server >dies, the > > > >network is basically SOL until the person can manually move services >or that > > > >server comes back up and services are crontab'd. Just an idea, i >know i'd > > > >like it. > > > > > > Use an crontab to automatically restard the IRCD and services ?? >*frown* > > > > > > Regards > > > Chris Knipe > > > Cel: (083) 430 8151 > > > Freelance Internet Developer, Consultant, Administrator & Speaker > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org > > with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org >with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. From atcarr at hotmail.com Sat Jan 8 21:03:15 2000 From: atcarr at hotmail.com (The Phantom of the Internet) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:56 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] Services Message-ID: 20000109050315.57546.qmail@hotmail.com Easy: DNS: services-uplink-entry-point.your.domain in DNS services-uplink-entry-point IN A 196.14.22.5 IN A 196.14.22.14 etc. That way the servers who's IP's are listed above get services connecting to them on a round-robin basis. Regards Jacques I only see one problem with this round-robin effect for services. The current coding has services shut back down if there is an error where it is unable to connect to the specified server. Now if services somehow hits the ip address on this round-robin which is down then it will shut down and wait to retry until the next cron job. Which depending on the Admin who set this situation up could be anywhere from 5-30 minutes. The Phantom ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. From cgknipe at mweb.co.za Sun Jan 9 05:38:11 2000 From: cgknipe at mweb.co.za (Chris Knipe) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:56 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] Services In-Reply-To: <20000106213639.16411.qmail@hotmail.com> References: 20000106213639.16411.qmail@hotmail.com Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.10.10001091522430.17626-100000@darkwing.savage.za.org On Thu, 6 Jan 2000, Angel of Death wrote: Hi ... I won't stay long on this, it might not even be a good solution, but here goes... Crontab, *CAN* do what is needed... >>I don't think everyone is understanding the situation presented here. Say >>you have Services running on server A. Services links to server B, not an >>ircd on the same box (A). Server B crashes. Now Services are no where >>because the .conf file only has one server (B) to link to. This is >>correctable if a person with access to server A is around to edit the .conf >>file, but the situation is that, that person is not around. So the asked >>for solution is to have multiple S:lines in the .conf file that Services >>would attempt to link to in the event the primary is down. Setting up a >>crontab to restart the ircd on server B is moot because server B is dead. >>This is what I gathered from Angel's emails. Correct me if I'm wrong. >From the Services Documentation: Normally, Services can be run simply by invoking the "services" executable. Services will then use the defaults specified in the services.conf file, and connect to the specified uplink server. Alternatively, any of the following command-line options can be specified to change the default values: -remote server[:port] Connect to the specified server -local host -or- Connect from the specified address (e.g. [host]:[port] for multihomed servers) -name servername Our server name (e.g. services.some.net) -desc string Description of us (e.g. SomeNet Services) -user username Username for Services' nicks (e.g. services) -host hostname Hostname for Services' nicks (e.g. esper.net) -dir directory Directory containing Services' data files (e.g. /usr/local/lib/services) -log filename Services log filename (e.g. services.log) -update secs How often to update databases (in seconds) -expire secs How often to check for nick/channel expiration (in seconds) --- Now with an rather interesting sh / bash script, you will be able to ping or traceroute the server to where your services are supposed to link to (most shell providers allow the use of ping). From the output, you can easily grep the ping statistics... >From standard Linux (output returned by ping might vary from OS to OS), issuing something like the command below, will give you an good idea of the current network performance to any remote server where services could or shoud be linking to... ping -c 50 | grep received | cut -c 43-70 0% packet loss >From the ammount of packet loss returned, you can then reliably decide where to link to, or what other actions to take. (Hence if you have the access, you can even change routing tables - would it be neccessary). Should 100% packet loss be returned, that would obviously mean the server is dead, now you can re-invoke services with the -remote parameter, linking your services to the server specified. The matter of C/N lines in this case, would depend on the remote server where services is linking to. Mind you, this type of configuration can even be used to "re-route" services should lag become an problem. Regards Chris Knipe Cel: (083) 430 8151 Freelance Internet Developer, Consultant, Administrator & Speaker --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. From v13 at it.teithe.gr Sun Jan 9 14:18:48 2000 From: v13 at it.teithe.gr (Harhalakis Stefanos) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:56 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] Services In-Reply-To: <20000109050315.57546.qmail@hotmail.com> References: 20000109050315.57546.qmail@hotmail.com Message-ID: Pine.SGI.4.05.10001100016400.117-100000@aetos.it.teithe.gr On Sat, 8 Jan 2000, The Phantom of the Internet wrote: > I only see one problem with this round-robin effect for services. The > current coding has services shut back down if there is an error where it is > unable to connect to the specified server. Now if services somehow hits the > ip address on this round-robin which is down then it will shut down and wait > to retry until the next cron job. Which depending on the Admin who set this > situation up could be anywhere from 5-30 minutes. You don't have to use cron. You can have a script like: while /bin/true; do ./services -nofork done or make it as complex as you like. This way services will restart immediately after dying. > The Phantom <> --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. From justdoit at oceanfree.net Sun Jan 9 15:24:19 2000 From: justdoit at oceanfree.net (Aaron Brady) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:56 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] Diff to allow SIDENTIFY command References: Message-ID: 003301bf5af8$abac2c80$0100000a@rage.org This diff file will allow the use of the SIDENTIFY command, a synonym for IDENTIFY. One some servers, cyclone for one, if you connect with a Password (in mIRC/pIRCh whateva) and your I: line doesn't require one, it is securely sent to services via SIDENTIFY :insom PRIVMSG services@lost-in-cyberspace.com :SIDENTIFY fr4ud From atcarr at hotmail.com Mon Jan 10 04:57:58 2000 From: atcarr at hotmail.com (The Phantom of the Internet) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:56 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] Diff to allow SIDENTIFY command Message-ID: 20000110125758.95489.qmail@hotmail.com Of course if you are running a variant of DreamForge 4.6.7 it already has that as part of the coding. So far I haven't found any server variant of this dreamforge code to not still have that coded into the server. But I don't go to far into looking at the systems. The best way to check if a server already has this is to type /server servername password if once you have logged into the network you get a message from nickserv saying that you are not identified for your nick then its already there. If not you will get a message stating you cannot re-register. The Phantom ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. From net at lite.net Mon Jan 10 05:10:23 2000 From: net at lite.net (Jonathan George) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:56 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] Diff to allow SIDENTIFY command In-Reply-To: <20000110125758.95489.qmail@hotmail.com> References: 20000110125758.95489.qmail@hotmail.com Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.10.10001100708430.32277-100000@lite.net Uhm... perhaps you should have looked at the patch first. The patch is to be applied against Services, not DreamForge... in order to take advantage of a DreamForge feature. |Of course if you are running a variant of DreamForge 4.6.7 it already has |that as part of the coding. So far I haven't found any server variant of |this dreamforge code to not still have that coded into the server. But I |don't go to far into looking at the systems. The best way to check if a |server already has this is to type /server servername password if once you |have logged into the network you get a message from nickserv saying that you |are not identified for your nick then its already there. If not you will |get a message stating you cannot re-register. | |The Phantom ================================================ Jonathan George - www.jdg.net - (net@lite.net) Software Engineer ================================================ 200 Arco Place, Suite 252 Independence, KS 67301 Voice: (316) 332-1616 Fax: (316) 332-1451 ================================================ --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. From andrewk at icon.co.za Mon Jan 10 08:21:24 2000 From: andrewk at icon.co.za (Andrew Kempe) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:56 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] Diff to allow SIDENTIFY command In-Reply-To: <003301bf5af8$abac2c80$0100000a@rage.org> References: 003301bf5af8$abac2c80$0100000a@rage.org Message-ID: NCBBIPDDJGGDOCPMKPKPMEBODBAA.andrewk@icon.co.za Please don't post patches to this list - it is a discussion and support list - not a coding list. If you really have the urge, join the "ircservices-coding@" list (in the same way you joined this one). Then again, it's for Services, rather than ircd's. And even there, patches are not welcome on the list itself. Rather mail the address of the patch. Thanks, Andrew > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org > [mailto:owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org]On Behalf Of Aaron Brady > Sent: 10 January 2000 01:24 > To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org > Subject: [IRCServices] Diff to allow SIDENTIFY command > > > This diff file will allow the use of the SIDENTIFY command, a synonym for > IDENTIFY. One some servers, cyclone for one, if you connect with > a Password > (in mIRC/pIRCh whateva) and your I: line doesn't require one, it > is securely > sent to services via SIDENTIFY > > :insom PRIVMSG services@lost-in-cyberspace.com :SIDENTIFY fr4ud > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. From makero at 13g.dhs.org Tue Jan 11 04:50:25 2000 From: makero at 13g.dhs.org (Makero) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:56 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] IRCServices + ircdu_2.10.07 Message-ID: 20000111.12502599@gollo.13g.dhs.org Hy I'm running IRCDu 2.10.07 and i'm trying to make IRCServices work with it. In current release, if you edit the Makefile, you can compile IRCServices for the ircdu 2.10.x Well. I have edited the makefile, and compiled the IRCServices. When the IRCServi ces run (./services)), everything appears to be ok. The IRCServices process is running, ( I can see it when ps - ax | grep services) and i can se the link whit the /links command in ircdu But nothing else. I cant see any boot in the irc. When i /msg chan help. Y get a “not such nick” error. I supposed that this is why makefile must to be edited to compile in ircdu 2.10.x mode. :-) Because they don't work. I really want to use IRCDu 2.10.7 an IRCServices together. My question is: Is anybody working to fix this?. Can I help anyway?. Can you send me some info around the problem, so I can start my own work? Thanks a lot makero makero@13g.dhs.org You can connect to my ircdu and see the problem at irc://13g.dhs.org --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. From andrewk at icon.co.za Tue Jan 11 06:58:47 2000 From: andrewk at icon.co.za (Andrew Kempe) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:56 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] IRCServices + ircdu_2.10.07 In-Reply-To: <20000111.12502599@gollo.13g.dhs.org> References: 20000111.12502599@gollo.13g.dhs.org Message-ID: NCBBIPDDJGGDOCPMKPKPCEDCDBAA.andrewk@icon.co.za The reason 2.10.x was commented out was becuase Services don't support it :) I'm personally not attempting to add support for ircu - although there may be a few people who are. If you want to add support for it, please do. But you're going to have to make numerous changes - way beyond the scope of this list. Andrew > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org > [mailto:owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org]On Behalf Of Makero > Sent: 11 January 2000 14:50 > To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org > Subject: [IRCServices] IRCServices + ircdu_2.10.07 > > > Hy > > I'm running IRCDu 2.10.07 and i'm trying to make IRCServices work with > it. In current release, if you edit the Makefile, you can compile > IRCServices for the ircdu 2.10.x > > Well. I have edited the makefile, and compiled the IRCServices. When > the IRCServi ces run (./services)), everything appears to be ok. The > IRCServices process is running, ( I can see it when ps - ax | grep > services) and i can se the link whit the /links command in ircdu > > But nothing else. I cant see any boot in the irc. When i /msg chan > help. Y get a “not such nick” error. > > I supposed that this is why makefile must to be edited to compile in > ircdu 2.10.x mode. :-) Because they don't work. > > I really want to use IRCDu 2.10.7 an IRCServices together. My question > is: Is anybody working to fix this?. Can I help anyway?. Can you send > me some info around the problem, so I can start my own work? > > Thanks a lot > > makero > > makero@13g.dhs.org > > You can connect to my ircdu and see the problem at irc://13g.dhs.org > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org > with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. > --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. From tjung at igateway.net Tue Jan 11 10:41:35 2000 From: tjung at igateway.net (Tim Jung) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:56 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] Problems with services and ircd References: Message-ID: 00a601bf5c63$7d366de0$073c8ece@igateway.net I am running dal4.6.5 and services 4.2. I am running Red Hat 6.1 with all the patches and updates. It is an AMD K6-2/350 with 128Megs of RAM and 3 gig HD with 256meg swap partition. I am using a 3COM 3C905 PCI 10/100 BaseT network as well, nothing else in the server, no extra cards or anything. The problem that I am having is that if I run IRC and SERVICES the machine will crater in 1-4 days. It just locks up tight and won't respond to the console or anything. I am running some other gaming servers on this machine as well. If I run all the other servers and not IRC/SERVICES everything is fine. If I run just IRC/SERVICES it all blows up in 1-4 days. I can't figure out what could be wrong with IRC/SERVICES and why I don't see anything in the error logs that would cause this problems. I currently have 6 days of up time on the machine without running IRC/SERVICES. Anyone have any idea why it would do this? Tim Jung System Admin Internet Gateway Inc. tjung@igateway.net --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. From achurch at dragonfire.net Wed Jan 12 06:50:37 2000 From: achurch at dragonfire.net (Andrew Church) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:56 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] Problems with services and ircd Message-ID: 387ba5f9.77431@dragonfire.net >I am running dal4.6.5 and services 4.2. I am running Red Hat 6.1 with all >the patches and updates. It is an AMD K6-2/350 with 128Megs of RAM and 3 gig >HD with 256meg swap partition. I am using a 3COM 3C905 PCI 10/100 BaseT >network as well, nothing else in the server, no extra cards or anything. > >The problem that I am having is that if I run IRC and SERVICES the machine >will crater in 1-4 days. It just locks up tight and won't respond to the >console or anything. [...] >Anyone have any idea why it would do this? No clue. Just to check, what kernel version do you have? --Andrew Church achurch@dragonfire.net http://achurch.dragonfire.net/ --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. From tjung at igateway.net Tue Jan 11 17:59:25 2000 From: tjung at igateway.net (Tim Jung) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:56 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] Problems with services and ircd References: <387ba5f9.77431@dragonfire.net> Message-ID: 032201bf5ca0$a758ca40$073c8ece@igateway.net Here is what I get from uname -a Linux 2.2.12-20 #1 Mon Sep 27 10:25:54 EDT 1999 i586 unknown So the answer is kernel 2.2.12-20 Tim Jung System Admin Internet Gateway Inc. tjung@igateway.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Church" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [IRCServices] Problems with services and ircd > >I am running dal4.6.5 and services 4.2. I am running Red Hat 6.1 with all > >the patches and updates. It is an AMD K6-2/350 with 128Megs of RAM and 3 gig > >HD with 256meg swap partition. I am using a 3COM 3C905 PCI 10/100 BaseT > >network as well, nothing else in the server, no extra cards or anything. > [...] > >Anyone have any idea why it would do this? > > No clue. Just to check, what kernel version do you have? > > --Andrew Church > achurch@dragonfire.net > http://achurch.dragonfire.net/ --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. From cgknipe at mweb.co.za Wed Jan 12 14:35:35 2000 From: cgknipe at mweb.co.za (Chris Knipe) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:56 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] Problems with services and ircd In-Reply-To: <032201bf5ca0$a758ca40$073c8ece@igateway.net> References: 032201bf5ca0$a758ca40$073c8ece@igateway.net Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.10.10001130032520.8144-100000@darkwing.savage.za.org On Tue, 11 Jan 2000, Tim Jung wrote: >Here is what I get from uname -a > >Linux 2.2.12-20 #1 Mon Sep 27 10:25:54 EDT 1999 i586 unknown ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Is this edited?? If not, I believe you are missing an hostname - which can be erm well, nothing less than total stupidity :) The year is also 1999 ??? Are your clock correct? Regards Chris Knipe Cel: (083) 430 8151 Freelance Internet Developer, Consultant, Administrator & Speaker --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. From cgknipe at mweb.co.za Wed Jan 12 14:32:13 2000 From: cgknipe at mweb.co.za (Chris Knipe) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:56 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] Problems with services and ircd In-Reply-To: <00a601bf5c63$7d366de0$073c8ece@igateway.net> References: 00a601bf5c63$7d366de0$073c8ece@igateway.net Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.10.10001130019340.8144-100000@darkwing.savage.za.org On Tue, 11 Jan 2000, Tim Jung wrote: >I am running dal4.6.5 and services 4.2. I am running Red Hat 6.1 with all >the patches and updates. It is an AMD K6-2/350 with 128Megs of RAM and 3 gig >HD with 256meg swap partition. I am using a 3COM 3C905 PCI 10/100 BaseT >network as well, nothing else in the server, no extra cards or anything. As stated by Andy aswell, it is very hard to pin point this... However, there might be an few (rather silly, bit still usefull?) ideas that you can try... First off, cut down on your swap parition. With 128MB ram, you only need about 10% of that in swap space... Go make yourselve another ext2 filesystem and mount /home on it or something :) I have 128MB Ram, and I only use an 10MB swap parition, which is only about 6MB used at the moment... Having larger swap paritions than which is actually needed, can in some cases actually slow down system performance... Secondly, what happens if you run the irc services without any of the other gaming servers and stuff?? Do they still crash ? Have you perhaps tried swapping your memory arround, changing the hardware in the computer, or perhaps just cleaning them out / swapping the two simms arround, stuff like that? Another suggestion, might be to recompile everything. Try first without patches (clean distributions), then if the binaries proove to be stable, recompile again, adding an patch. This way, you might be able to find out where the bad code actually comes from which for some reason cause your computer to stop responding - and you might be able to work arround it. Lasty, try running services in full debug mode (/msg operserv set debug level 9 - I think?), untill it crashes... Andy, or someone else, might be able to locate some sort of mis behaviour from debugged log files in such an case... (memmory thats used, but not released - invalid system calls - stuff like that ...) I hope this can be an starting point for you. My gut however, tells me that this can and is more likely hardware related. If you find any core files from any programs running on your server, gdb traces is always an good place to start tracing problems. Regards Chris Knipe Cel: (083) 430 8151 Freelance Internet Developer, Consultant, Administrator & Speaker --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. From achurch at dragonfire.net Sun Jan 16 18:58:47 2000 From: achurch at dragonfire.net (Andrew Church) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:56 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] Problems with services and ircd Message-ID: 388478c1.06633@dragonfire.net With regard to the system-crashing problem, is this something that can be consistently reproduced? If so, it's probably a kernel problem; if not, hardware trouble is more likely. In either case, you might try running Services in debug mode (debug level around 3), and make sure you have your partition mounted in synchronous mode so everything gets properly written to the logfile. You might also try enabling the "magic SysRq key" in your kernel and recompiling, to see if you can use that to regain control of the system and diagnose the problem (see /usr/src/linux/Documentation/sysrq.txt for more information). --Andrew Church achurch@dragonfire.net http://achurch.dragonfire.net/ --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. From achurch at dragonfire.net Sun Jan 16 18:50:44 2000 From: achurch at dragonfire.net (Andrew Church) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:56 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] (Off-topic) Swap partition size Message-ID: 388478ea.06637@dragonfire.net >>I am running dal4.6.5 and services 4.2. I am running Red Hat 6.1 with all >>the patches and updates. It is an AMD K6-2/350 with 128Megs of RAM and 3 gig >>HD with 256meg swap partition. I am using a 3COM 3C905 PCI 10/100 BaseT >>network as well, nothing else in the server, no extra cards or anything. [...] >First off, cut down on your swap parition. With 128MB ram, you only need >about 10% of that in swap space... Actually, the standard recommendation is swap size = 2 * physical RAM size. 25MB is ridiculously small for a 128MB box, especially a server. The smaller your swap space, the less physical RAM can be freed up for things like disk cache, and the more I/O delays you'll get. I personally have 192MB of swap on my 128MB home machine, and it performs fine (not that I ever touch swap memory most of the time). In any case, if you're so squeezed for disk space you need some of that 256MB for file storage, go out and buy another hard disk. Last I checked, you can find 4GB SCSI drives for under $100 these days. >Having larger swap paritions than which is actually needed, can >in some cases actually slow down system performance... This may have been true in the past, and may be true of other operating systems *cough*Windows*cough*, but it doesn't hold for modern Linux, at least not from what I've seen. --Andrew Church achurch@dragonfire.net http://achurch.dragonfire.net/ --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. From tjung at igateway.net Tue Jan 18 09:35:59 2000 From: tjung at igateway.net (Tim Jung) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:56 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] Problems with services and ircd References: <388478c1.06633@dragonfire.net> Message-ID: 005b01bf61da$7c060f80$073c8ece@igateway.net The question I would have if it is a hardware problem is why I can load up the machine with tons of game servers and run for going on ....2 weeks now with no problem. If it was hardware then Quake 1, Quake 2, Quake 3, Half Life and some of the other gaming servers should have caused the same problems. Also no I don't run all of the Quake servers at the same time with IRC/Services, nor am I running them all now. I only run about 2-3 quake servers at a time. Yet if I run nothing but IRC/Services the machine crashes in 1-3 days. It doesn't make any sense other than there is no hardware problem or Linux problem. It would seem there is a problem with either the IRC server or Services or both of them running together. Until I can figure out which one is causing the problem or both, I can't run that copy of IRC or that copy of IRC Services. There is a definite problem with IRC and/or services. Tim Jung System Admin Internet Gateway Inc. tjung@igateway.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Church" To: Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2000 3:58 AM Subject: Re: [IRCServices] Problems with services and ircd > With regard to the system-crashing problem, is this something that can > be consistently reproduced? If so, it's probably a kernel problem; if not, > hardware trouble is more likely. In either case, you might try running > Services in debug mode (debug level around 3), and make sure you have your > partition mounted in synchronous mode so everything gets properly written to > the logfile. You might also try enabling the "magic SysRq key" in your > kernel and recompiling, to see if you can use that to regain control of the > system and diagnose the problem (see /usr/src/linux/Documentation/sysrq.txt > for more information). > > --Andrew Church > achurch@dragonfire.net > http://achurch.dragonfire.net/ > --------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org > with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. From kfiresun at ix.netcom.com Tue Jan 18 17:02:51 2000 From: kfiresun at ix.netcom.com (Kelmar Firesun) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:56 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] Problems with services and ircd References: <00a601bf5c63$7d366de0$073c8ece@igateway.net> Message-ID: 001801bf6218$e9b53f90$37526dd1@dragon ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Jung To: Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 12:41 PM Subject: [IRCServices] Problems with services and ircd > > I am running dal4.6.5 and services 4.2. I am running Red Hat 6.1 with all > the patches and updates. It is an AMD K6-2/350 with 128Megs of RAM and 3 gig > HD with 256meg swap partition. I am using a 3COM 3C905 PCI 10/100 BaseT > network as well, nothing else in the server, no extra cards or anything. > You may not want to use DreamForge 4.6.5, I'd try using 4.6.7 and see if that makes the problem go away. I looked at the change log in 4.6.7 but it does not have the changes that were made in that version, just version 4.6.5. You can get the newer version off of DALNet's ftp site: ftp://ftp.dal.net/pub/dalnet/dreamforge/ or you can grab it out of my FTP dropbox if you like: ftp://ftp.dreamhaven.net/users/kagebot/pub/server/ Best of luck, Kelmar K. Firesun --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. From cbecerram at entelchile.net Tue Jan 18 18:36:45 2000 From: cbecerram at entelchile.net (Carlos Becerra T.) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:56 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] The Code list... Message-ID: 3885233D.5D4476E5@entelchile.net Hello : What's the address of the services code.... (soource and patches) ? --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. From kfiresun at ix.netcom.com Tue Jan 18 18:07:51 2000 From: kfiresun at ix.netcom.com (Kelmar Firesun) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:56 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] The Code list... References: <3885233D.5D4476E5@entelchile.net> Message-ID: 000701bf6221$fe93dfd0$37526dd1@dragon ftp://ender.shadowfire.org/pub/ircservices/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Carlos Becerra T. To: Lista Services Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2000 8:36 PM Subject: [IRCServices] The Code list... > Hello : > What's the address of the services code.... (soource and > patches) ? > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org > with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. From cbecerram at entelchile.net Tue Jan 18 19:38:58 2000 From: cbecerram at entelchile.net (Carlos Becerra T.) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:56 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] The Code list... References: <3885233D.5D4476E5@entelchile.net> <000701bf6221$fe93dfd0$37526dd1@dragon> Message-ID: 388531D2.D53C2E6F@entelchile.net > ftp://ender.shadowfire.org/pub/ircservices/ what's is the email address of the code list of the services... what's is the email address of the his majordomo? Sorry but my english isn't very well... --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. From smkelly at zombie.org Tue Jan 18 19:16:25 2000 From: smkelly at zombie.org (Sean Kelly) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:56 2004 Subject: [andrewk@icon.co.za: [IRCServices] IRCServices-Coding Mailing List] Message-ID: 20000118211625.A1132@zombie.org ----- Forwarded message from Andrew Kempe ----- From: "Andrew Kempe" To: "IRCServices" Subject: [IRCServices] IRCServices-Coding Mailing List Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 16:44:43 +0200 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org I've setup a list, as per the popular demand, for the discussion of coding for IRC Services. Please make proper use of this list. It is not a place to post once-off hacks, as I said in my previous mail. It should be used constructively to gain an insight into the operation of IRC Services and to find optimal methods of implementing changes. Please refrain from posting patches at this stage. If you have something you'd like to share, notify the list of what it is, what it does and its size. People should then reply to you privately requesting the patch. Should a patch become popular and be recognised as stable and well written, it will be added to the the IRC Services ftp site. To subscribe to this list, email: majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org ...with the following line in the _body_ of the email: subscribe ircservices-coding An archive of this list will be kept at: http://ender.shadowfire.org/ircservices-coding/listarchive/ Regards, Andrew --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- ====================================================================== Sean Kelly smkelly@zombie.org PGP: 77042C7B smkelly@slashnet.org ====================================================================== Send e-mail to smkelly@zombie.org with subject "send pgp key" for public key. From lebleu at prefer.net Wed Jan 19 10:18:55 2000 From: lebleu at prefer.net (Kevin) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:56 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] Problems with services and ircd In-Reply-To: <005b01bf61da$7c060f80$073c8ece@igateway.net> References: 005b01bf61da$7c060f80$073c8ece@igateway.net Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.21.0001191202130.20817-100000@hades.bleu.paganpaths.org On Tue, 18 Jan 2000, Tim Jung wrote: > Yet if I run nothing but IRC/Services the machine crashes in 1-3 days. It > doesn't make any sense other than there is no hardware problem or Linux > problem. > > It would seem there is a problem with either the IRC server or Services or > both of them running together. Until I can figure out which one is causing > the problem or both, I can't run that copy of IRC or that copy of IRC > Services. There is a definite problem with IRC and/or services. If any program can crash the system, there is a problem with your OS or hardware. No matter how buggy the program is, a decent OS shouldn't let it crash the system. Are you connecting IRC and services via the localhost interface? What if you run irc and services on your machine, but connect the ircd to services running on a remote machine, and the services to ircd running on a remote machine? Perhaps it is an oddball bug in the local loopback interface? There must be some part of your hardware or kernel that irc + services accesses that other programs don't. Given the intensity of quake servers on the network, I doubt it's a hardware problem though, because I can't think of any piece of hardware services would use more... disk access I suppose, but compiling services would be harder on disk than running it... hmm... I haven't had any troubles with services on my P100 w/ 40 meg ram and 128 meg swap and kernel 2.0.36... --Kevin -- If you're reading this you're part of the mass hallucination that is Kevin the Blue. Copyright 1999 Kevin the Blue PGP public key at http://www.lebl.eu.org/~lebleu/mypublickey.asc Wear a blue ribbon today to show your solidarity for freedom of speech on the Internet! --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. From tjung at igateway.net Wed Jan 19 11:19:10 2000 From: tjung at igateway.net (Tim Jung) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:56 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] Problems with services and ircd References: Message-ID: 05c701bf62b2$0ff6da80$073c8ece@igateway.net No one is allowed to telnet into that server but me. So all IRC clients are remote clients none are done via the local loopback or from the machine itself. Your comment that no program should be able to crash an OS is true if this were a perfect world. This isn't a perfect world and software is updated all the time to fix bugs etc, and this could possibly be a bug that needs to be fixed. I don't know for sure. But I don't understand how my game servers can chew up all the ram and put huge loads on the processor (1.xx and higher) and they don't crash the server. Yet I can run just IRCD and SERVICES and like clockwork the server will crash after a day or so. It points to a problem in IRC and SERVICES and their interaction with the operating system. Since they are the only applications that crash the server. Tim Jung System Admin Internet Gateway Inc. tjung@igateway.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2000 12:18 PM Subject: Re: [IRCServices] Problems with services and ircd > On Tue, 18 Jan 2000, Tim Jung wrote: > > > Yet if I run nothing but IRC/Services the machine crashes in 1-3 days. It > > doesn't make any sense other than there is no hardware problem or Linux > > problem. > > > > It would seem there is a problem with either the IRC server or Services or > > both of them running together. Until I can figure out which one is causing > > the problem or both, I can't run that copy of IRC or that copy of IRC > > Services. There is a definite problem with IRC and/or services. > > If any program can crash the system, there is a problem with your OS or > hardware. No matter how buggy the program is, a decent OS shouldn't let > it crash the system. Are you connecting IRC and services via the > localhost interface? What if you run irc and services on your machine, > but connect the ircd to services running on a remote machine, and the > services to ircd running on a remote machine? Perhaps it is an oddball > bug in the local loopback interface? > > There must be some part of your hardware or kernel that irc + services > accesses that other programs don't. Given the intensity of quake servers > on the network, I doubt it's a hardware problem though, because I > can't think of any piece of hardware services would use more... disk > access I suppose, but compiling services would be harder on disk than > running it... hmm... I haven't had any troubles with services on my P100 > w/ 40 meg ram and 128 meg swap and kernel 2.0.36... > > --Kevin > > -- > If you're reading this you're part of the mass hallucination that is Kevin > the Blue. > Copyright 1999 Kevin the Blue > PGP public key at http://www.lebl.eu.org/~lebleu/mypublickey.asc > Wear a blue ribbon today to show your solidarity for freedom of speech on > the Internet! > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org > with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. From gregk at WWWpages.com Wed Jan 19 14:07:05 2000 From: gregk at WWWpages.com (Gregory King) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:56 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] Problems with services and ircd In-Reply-To: <05c701bf62b2$0ff6da80$073c8ece@igateway.net> References: 05c701bf62b2$0ff6da80$073c8ece@igateway.net Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.20.0001191405340.17175-100000@smtp.wwwpages.com > Yet I can run just IRCD and SERVICES and like clockwork the server will > crash after a day or so. It points to a problem in IRC and SERVICES and > their interaction with the operating system. Since they are the only > applications that crash the server. I would think your experiences would be more common if the ircd and services were the cause. Sounds to me like it is related to the machine. Try turning off your internal cache. It will slow your machine down, but may fix the problem. my $.02 Greg --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. From lebleu at prefer.net Wed Jan 19 14:10:39 2000 From: lebleu at prefer.net (Kevin) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:56 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] Problems with services and ircd In-Reply-To: <05c701bf62b2$0ff6da80$073c8ece@igateway.net> References: 05c701bf62b2$0ff6da80$073c8ece@igateway.net Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.21.0001191602380.4031-100000@hades.bleu.paganpaths.org On Wed, 19 Jan 2000, Tim Jung wrote: > No one is allowed to telnet into that server but me. So all IRC clients are > remote clients none are done via the local loopback or from the machine > itself. I don't know how you have yours configured, but I have services connecting to 127.0.0.1 to connect to a dedicated port on the ircd. If you aren't doing that, you could always try and see if it fixes anything. :) > Your comment that no program should be able to crash an OS is true if this > were a perfect world. This isn't a perfect world and software is updated all It's not?? You mean the travel brochures I got before I chose to be born here lied?? jk :) > the time to fix bugs etc, and this could possibly be a bug that needs to be > fixed. I don't know for sure. But I don't understand how my game servers can > chew up all the ram and put huge loads on the processor (1.xx and higher) > and they don't crash the server. Honestly, me either... I have trouble imagining what part of the code services is hitting that game servers don't excercise... that's why I suggested the localhost possibility. > Yet I can run just IRCD and SERVICES and like clockwork the server will > crash after a day or so. It points to a problem in IRC and SERVICES and > their interaction with the operating system. Since they are the only > applications that crash the server. Repeatable bugs are easier to fix. :) maybe you could run strace or something like that dumping to the console or to a remote machine so you can see where it seems to be crashing? I've already deleted the original message in which you mentioned your machine configuration... think you said it was redhat tho? Have you tried compiling a stock linux kernel (i.e. not one with any patches, whereas both redhat and debian add some patches, as far as I know) of the latest revision of the stable tree and seeing if you still have the problem? The more precisely you can narrow down the problem, the better idea you have of who to bitch at. (I honestly don't think a change to services nor ircd is the answer, since it seems to run so stably everywhere else, it's probably an oddity of the kernel you're running, maybe even specific to one particular device driver you have loaded. Hence, kernel debugging techniques to identify if it crashes at a consistent place in the kernel are probably the way to go...) --Kevin -- If you're reading this you're part of the mass hallucination that is Kevin the Blue. Copyright 1999 Kevin the Blue PGP public key at http://www.lebl.eu.org/~lebleu/mypublickey.asc Wear a blue ribbon today to show your solidarity for freedom of speech on the Internet! --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. From cgknipe at mweb.co.za Wed Jan 19 14:48:26 2000 From: cgknipe at mweb.co.za (Chris Knipe) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:56 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] Problems with services and ircd In-Reply-To: <05c701bf62b2$0ff6da80$073c8ece@igateway.net> References: 05c701bf62b2$0ff6da80$073c8ece@igateway.net Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.10.10001200047540.4403-100000@darkwing.savage.za.org On Wed, 19 Jan 2000, Tim Jung wrote: >Yet I can run just IRCD and SERVICES and like clockwork the server will >crash after a day or so. It points to a problem in IRC and SERVICES and >their interaction with the operating system. Since they are the only >applications that crash the server. And as stated to you by various people on this list, debug the programs properly to pin point the problem!! Regards Chris Knipe Cel: (083) 430 8151 Freelance Internet Developer, Consultant, Administrator & Speaker --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. From jchester at rbgdesign.com Wed Jan 26 17:22:16 2000 From: jchester at rbgdesign.com (Joel Chesterman) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:56 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] Compile Problems with RedHat6.1 Message-ID: 001001bf6864$f2f31b20$b20418d1@joel Any ideas how I can get around this error? I'm trying to compile them on RedHat Linux6.1 __________________________________________________________ [joel@gatos ircservices-4.3.3]$ gmake install (cd lang ; gmake CFLAGS=" -O2 -Wall -g") gmake[1]: Entering directory `/home/joel/ircservices-4.3.3/lang' gmake[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'. gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/home/joel/ircservices-4.3.3/lang' install -m 700 services /home/joel/ircservices-4.3.3/bin/services rm -f /home/joel/ircservices-4.3.3/bin/listnicks /home/joel/ircservices-4.3.3/bin/listchans ln /home/joel/ircservices-4.3.3/bin/services /home/joel/ircservices-4.3.3/bin/listnicks ln /home/joel/ircservices-4.3.3/bin/services /home/joel/ircservices-4.3.3/bin/listchans (cd lang ; gmake install) gmake[1]: Entering directory `/home/joel/ircservices-4.3.3/lang' mkdir -p /home/joel/ircservices-4.3.3/data/languages chmod 700 /home/joel/ircservices-4.3.3/data/languages cp en_us es it ja_euc ja_jis ja_sjis pt tr /home/joel/ircservices-4.3.3/data/languages chmod 600 /home/joel/ircservices-4.3.3/data/languages/* gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/home/joel/ircservices-4.3.3/lang' rm -rf /home/joel/ircservices-4.3.3/data/helpfiles/ircii /bin/cp -dpr data/* /home/joel/ircservices-4.3.3/data /bin/cp: `data/example.conf' and `/home/joel/ircservices-4.3.3/data/example.conf' are the same file /bin/cp: `data/helpfiles' and `/home/joel/ircservices-4.3.3/data/helpfiles' are the same file /bin/cp: `data/languages' and `/home/joel/ircservices-4.3.3/data/languages' are the same file gmake: *** [install] Error 1 From zero at racetime.com.au Wed Jan 26 19:21:19 2000 From: zero at racetime.com.au (Zero) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:56 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] Compile Problems with RedHat6.1 In-Reply-To: <001001bf6864$f2f31b20$b20418d1@joel> References: 001001bf6864$f2f31b20$b20418d1@joel Message-ID: NDBBIIIAFJDPMKOMHLLFKENNCBAA.zero@racetime.com.au the source and destination dir cannot be the same. make services be installed to a dir different to that youre compiling from, would probably help :) btw, html posts suck :) -----Original Message----- From: owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org [mailto:owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org]On Behalf Of Joel Chesterman Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 12:22 To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org Subject: [IRCServices] Compile Problems with RedHat6.1 --Zero IRC Operator, flute.telstra.net.au --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. From atcarr at hotmail.com Wed Jan 26 20:38:36 2000 From: atcarr at hotmail.com (The Phantom of the Internet) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:56 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] Compile Problems with RedHat6.1 Message-ID: 20000127043836.52598.qmail@hotmail.com >Any ideas how I can get around this error? >I'm trying to compile them on RedHat Linux6.1 > >gmake[1]: Entering directory `/home/joel/ircservices-4.3.3/lang' >mkdir -p /home/joel/ircservices-4.3.3/data/languages >chmod 700 /home/joel/ircservices-4.3.3/data/languages >cp en_us es it ja_euc ja_jis ja_sjis pt tr >/home/joel/ircservices-4.3.3/data/languages >chmod 600 /home/joel/ircservices-4.3.3/data/languages/* >gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/home/joel/ircservices-4.3.3/lang' >rm -rf /home/joel/ircservices-4.3.3/data/helpfiles/ircii >/bin/cp -dpr data/* /home/joel/ircservices-4.3.3/data >/bin/cp: `data/example.conf' and >`/home/joel/ircservices-4.3.3/data/example.conf' are the same file >/bin/cp: `data/helpfiles' and `/home/joel/ircservices-4.3.3/data/helpfiles' >are the same file >/bin/cp: `data/languages' and `/home/joel/ircservices-4.3.3/data/languages' >are the same file >gmake: *** [install] Error 1 This is caused by a previous copy of the files already installed in the directory which you are currently installing into. Best way is to remove those files before running a clean installation of services. Phantom ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. From RealAct at mailandnews.com Mon Feb 7 13:10:25 2000 From: RealAct at mailandnews.com (Real) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:56 2004 Subject: ™local_check_header Message-ID: 000801bf71af$c3a43f80$885fb498@pavilion I need some help on how to make my services /msg instead of /notice could you please help me ? I would really apprecite it. Ely From RealAct at mailandnews.com Mon Feb 7 13:29:58 2000 From: RealAct at mailandnews.com (Real) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:56 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] Services to /msg Instead of /notice Message-ID: 000801bf71b2$a10a7e00$885fb498@pavilion Hi there Im new to this list , first of all let me say Hi to everyone , Nice talking to you all. I need some help on how can I make my IRCd services make /msg instead of /notice when a user asks help from the services. Can anyone out there help please? Thanks in advance. Ely --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. From lebleu at prefer.net Mon Feb 7 10:58:14 2000 From: lebleu at prefer.net (Kevin) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:56 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] Services to /msg Instead of /notice In-Reply-To: <000801bf71b2$a10a7e00$885fb498@pavilion> References: 000801bf71b2$a10a7e00$885fb498@pavilion Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.21.0002071254120.27150-100000@hades.bleu.paganpaths.org On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, [Real] wrote: > Hi there Im new to this list , first of all let me say Hi to everyone , Nice > talking to you all. > I need some help on how can I make my IRCd services make /msg instead of > /notice when a user asks help from the services. > Can anyone out there help please? Could someone add a response to this one to the FAQ? It's asked all too frequently. :) RFC1459 (the IRC protocol spec) specifies that /notice should be used for automatic replies, and that no script, bot, or service should make an automatic reply to a /notice, so as to avoid reply loops. Hence, /msg would be *incorrect* for replies from services, being both a protocol violation and possibly leading to message loops if a reply from services triggers a reply from someone's script. This question has been asked many times, and the answer is always that it won't be changed. I suggest looking into modifications to your IRC client or a script for your IRC client that corrects the reasons why you want it as a /msg instead of as a /notice instead. --Kevin -- PaganPaths IRC Network - irc.paganpaths.org - http://www.paganpaths.org/ PPCR Pagan Internet Radio - http://www.paganpaths.org/radio/ If you're reading this you're part of the mass hallucination that is Kevin the Blue. Copyright 2000 Kevin the Blue PGP public key at http://www.lebl.eu.org/~lebleu/mypublickey.asc "Software is like fire - it can be freely distributed without lessening the original flame."-konstant --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. From andrewk at icon.co.za Mon Feb 7 11:13:59 2000 From: andrewk at icon.co.za (Andrew Kempe) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:56 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] Services to /msg Instead of /notice In-Reply-To: References: Pine.LNX.4.21.0002071254120.27150-100000@hades.bleu.paganpaths.org Message-ID: NCBBIPDDJGGDOCPMKPKPCEBPDCAA.andrewk@icon.co.za With pleasure.... done! Andrew > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org > [mailto:owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org]On Behalf Of Kevin > Sent: 07 February 2000 20:58 > To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org > Subject: Re: [IRCServices] Services to /msg Instead of /notice > > > On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, [Real] wrote: > > > Hi there Im new to this list , first of all let me say Hi to > everyone , Nice > > talking to you all. > > I need some help on how can I make my IRCd services make /msg instead of > > /notice when a user asks help from the services. > > Can anyone out there help please? > > Could someone add a response to this one to the FAQ? It's asked all too > frequently. :) > > RFC1459 (the IRC protocol spec) specifies that /notice should be used for > automatic replies, and that no script, bot, or service should make an > automatic reply to a /notice, so as to avoid reply loops. Hence, /msg > would be *incorrect* for replies from services, being both a protocol > violation and possibly leading to message loops if a reply from services > triggers a reply from someone's script. > > This question has been asked many times, and the answer is always that it > won't be changed. I suggest looking into modifications to your IRC client > or a script for your IRC client that corrects the reasons why you want it > as a /msg instead of as a /notice instead. > > --Kevin > > -- > PaganPaths IRC Network - irc.paganpaths.org - http://www.paganpaths.org/ > PPCR Pagan Internet Radio - http://www.paganpaths.org/radio/ > If you're reading this you're part of the mass hallucination that is Kevin > the Blue. > Copyright 2000 Kevin the Blue > PGP public key at http://www.lebl.eu.org/~lebleu/mypublickey.asc > "Software is like fire - it can be freely distributed without > lessening the > original flame."-konstant > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org > with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. > --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. From bradbury at rebeldev.net Mon Feb 7 13:39:27 2000 From: bradbury at rebeldev.net (Matt Bradbury) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:56 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] Services to /msg Instead of /notice References: <000801bf71b2$a10a7e00$885fb498@pavilion> Message-ID: 000401bf71b3$d19e7250$a1840b3f@REBEL2000 it's actually a very easy change ... but I can understand what the RFC says about it and agree 100% ----- Original Message ----- From: "[Real]" To: Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 4:29 PM Subject: [IRCServices] Services to /msg Instead of /notice > Hi there Im new to this list , first of all let me say Hi to everyone , Nice > talking to you all. > I need some help on how can I make my IRCd services make /msg instead of > /notice when a user asks help from the services. > Can anyone out there help please? > Thanks in advance. > Ely > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org > with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. > --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. From Admin at fuelie.net Mon Feb 7 23:25:59 2000 From: Admin at fuelie.net (Fuelie Admin) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:56 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] Services to /msg Instead of /notice References: <000801bf71b2$a10a7e00$885fb498@pavilion> <000401bf71b3$d19e7250$a1840b3f@REBEL2000> Message-ID: 001f01bf7205$bf152460$56ba5e18@kc.rr.com TRY THIS Is was givien to me when I had the same Question! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- send.c:/* Send a NOTICE from the given source to the given nick. */ send.c:void notice(const char *source, const char *dest, const char *fmt, ...) send.c: snprintf(buf, sizeof(buf), "NOTICE %s :%s", dest, fmt); send.c:/* Send a NULL-terminated array of text as NOTICEs. */ send.c:void notice_list(const char *source, const char *dest, const char **text) send.c: /* Have to kludge around an ircII bug here: if a notice includes send.c: notice(source, dest, *text); send.c: notice(source, dest, " "); send.c:/* Send a message in the user's selected language to the user using NOTICE. */ send.c:void notice_lang(const char *source, User *dest, int message, ...) send.c: send_cmd(source, "NOTICE %s :%s", dest->nick, *t ? t : " "); send.c:/* Like notice_lang(), but replace %S by the source. This is an ugly hack send.c:void notice_help(const char *source, User *dest, int message, ...) send.c: send_cmd(source, "NOTICE %s :%s", dest->nick, *outbuf ? outbuf : " "); perhaps line numbers would help but as you can see if you change all the uppercase NOTICE to PRIVMSG you will effectively change your services from using a notice reply to a MSG reply on everything as long as you use the standard source, if I had more time I'd make a patch for you but I hope this works out for you, please let me know if it doesn't and I shall research it more. Matt Bradbury /server orbit.phix.com Thank You, Founder of http://www.Fuelie.Net Fuelie.net Chat Network! > > > Hi there Im new to this list , first of all let me say Hi to everyone , > Nice > > talking to you all. > > I need some help on how can I make my IRCd services make /msg instead of > > /notice when a user asks help from the services. > > Can anyone out there help please? > > Thanks in advance. > > Ely > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org > > with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org > with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. From andrewk at icon.co.za Tue Feb 8 01:10:27 2000 From: andrewk at icon.co.za (Andrew Kempe) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:56 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] Services to /msg Instead of /notice In-Reply-To: <001f01bf7205$bf152460$56ba5e18@kc.rr.com> References: 001f01bf7205$bf152460$56ba5e18@kc.rr.com Message-ID: NCBBIPDDJGGDOCPMKPKPOECDDCAA.andrewk@icon.co.za Please post patches DIRECTLY to people - not to the list. This code will NOT be supported by this mailing list. The _only_ reason I would consider making changes like this is for webtv users. However, someone needs to contact the webtv people get them to make their irc client RFC compliant. We should never break the RFC guidelines just to be compatible with those who are not RFC compliant. Andrew > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org > [mailto:owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org]On Behalf Of Fuelie Admin > Sent: 08 February 2000 09:26 > To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org > Subject: Re: [IRCServices] Services to /msg Instead of /notice > > > TRY THIS > Is was givien to me when I had the same Question! > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > send.c:/* Send a NOTICE from the given source to the given nick. */ > send.c:void notice(const char *source, const char *dest, const char *fmt, > ...) > send.c: snprintf(buf, sizeof(buf), "NOTICE %s :%s", dest, fmt); > send.c:/* Send a NULL-terminated array of text as NOTICEs. */ > send.c:void notice_list(const char *source, const char *dest, const char > **text) > send.c: /* Have to kludge around an ircII bug here: if a notice includes > send.c: notice(source, dest, *text); > send.c: notice(source, dest, " "); > send.c:/* Send a message in the user's selected language to the user using > NOTICE. */ > send.c:void notice_lang(const char *source, User *dest, int message, ...) > send.c: send_cmd(source, "NOTICE %s :%s", dest->nick, *t ? t : " "); > send.c:/* Like notice_lang(), but replace %S by the source. This > is an ugly > hack > send.c:void notice_help(const char *source, User *dest, int message, ...) > send.c: send_cmd(source, "NOTICE %s :%s", dest->nick, *outbuf ? outbuf : " > "); > > perhaps line numbers would help but as you can see if you change all the > uppercase NOTICE to PRIVMSG you will effectively change your services from > using a notice reply to a MSG reply on everything as long as you use the > standard source, if I had more time I'd make a patch for you but > I hope this > works out for you, please let me know if it doesn't and I shall > research it > more. > > Matt Bradbury > /server orbit.phix.com > > > > > Thank You, > Founder of http://www.Fuelie.Net > Fuelie.net Chat Network! > > > > > Hi there Im new to this list , first of all let me say Hi to > everyone , > > Nice > > > talking to you all. > > > I need some help on how can I make my IRCd services make /msg > instead of > > > /notice when a user asks help from the services. > > > Can anyone out there help please? > > > Thanks in advance. > > > Ely > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org > > > with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org > > with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org > with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. > --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. From lebleu at prefer.net Tue Feb 8 01:30:19 2000 From: lebleu at prefer.net (Kevin) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:56 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] Services to /msg Instead of /notice In-Reply-To: References: NCBBIPDDJGGDOCPMKPKPOECDDCAA.andrewk@icon.co.za Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.21.0002080329400.187-100000@hades.bleu.paganpaths.org On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Andrew Kempe wrote: > users. However, someone needs to contact the webtv people get them to make > their irc client RFC compliant. We should never break the RFC guidelines > just to be compatible with those who are not RFC compliant. Here here!! If only the writers of web browsers had thought this way!! :) --Kevin -- If you're reading this you're part of the mass hallucination that is Kevin the Blue. Copyright 2000 Kevin the Blue PGP public key at http://www.lebl.eu.org/~lebleu/mypublickey.asc "Software is like fire - it can be freely distributed without lessening the original flame."-konstant --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. From k.hawkes at zombies.force9.net Tue Feb 8 13:40:58 2000 From: k.hawkes at zombies.force9.net (Dr. K. Hawkes) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:56 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] Services to /msg Instead of /notice Message-ID: 200002082107.XAA00924@Ender.gp.school.za ---------- > From: [Real] > To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org > Subject: [IRCServices] Services to /msg Instead of /notice > Date: Monday, February 07, 2000 21:29 > > Hi there Im new to this list , first of all let me say Hi to everyone , Nice > talking to you all. > I need some help on how can I make my IRCd services make /msg instead of > /notice when a user asks help from the services. > Can anyone out there help please? > Thanks in advance. > Ely > I'll probably get my butt kicked for saying this, but Magick allows a user to choose PRIVMSG/NOTICE, however as we all know Magick is somewhat unstable as it goes... I looked @ the Magick code and I'm not sure exactly HOW it allows the choice of PRIVMSG/NOTICE... 'cos Esper don't like it if you try it... Laters all :c) Quinn > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org > with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. From andrewk at icon.co.za Tue Feb 8 23:27:57 2000 From: andrewk at icon.co.za (Andrew Kempe) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:56 2004 Subject: [IRCServices] Services to /msg Instead of /notice In-Reply-To: <200002082107.XAA00924@Ender.gp.school.za> References: 200002082107.XAA00924@Ender.gp.school.za Message-ID: Pine.GSO.3.96.1000209092609.17547B-100000@shell.icon.co.za I _hate_ doing this, but please let's drop this thread. I (and a lot of other people) don't care who has implemented this, how it works etc. The fact is that it breaks the RFC and it's not going to get implemented here. If people want to break the RFC, then they must go on a private mission to do that. Andrew On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Dr. K. Hawkes wrote: > ---------- > > From: [Real] > > To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org > > Subject: [IRCServices] Services to /msg Instead of /notice > > Date: Monday, February 07, 2000 21:29 > > > > Hi there Im new to this list , first of all let me say Hi to everyone , > Nice > > talking to you all. > > I need some help on how can I make my IRCd services make /msg instead of > > /notice when a user asks help fr